Comments on: "I Sat Where They Sat" http://www.cseblogs.com/2007/01/15/i-sat-where-they-sat/ Just another WordPress weblog Mon, 26 Jul 2010 00:06:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: KDB http://www.cseblogs.com/2007/01/15/i-sat-where-they-sat/comment-page-2/#comment-1375 KDB Thu, 25 Jan 2007 15:34:54 +0000 http://www.cseblogs.com/?p=61#comment-1375 Dr. Hovind I submitted this same response to Eric. I'm extremely saddened by these events. I have long enjoyed the scriptural, knowledgeable, simple and light hearted presentation of Dr. Hovind. I serve as a pastor and our church has been showing the seminar videos for the past month. I just found out last night about the conviction. While I don't understand all the details it appears the charges shady. CSE is a tremendous assest to the Faith. Our prayers are with the Hovinds and the ministry of CSE. Dr. Hovind I submitted this same response to Eric.

I’m extremely saddened by these events. I have long enjoyed the scriptural, knowledgeable, simple and light hearted presentation of Dr. Hovind. I serve as a pastor and our church has been showing the seminar videos for the past month. I just found out last night about the conviction. While I don’t understand all the details it appears the charges shady. CSE is a tremendous assest to the Faith. Our prayers are with the Hovinds and the ministry of CSE.

]]> By: xchampion91 http://www.cseblogs.com/2007/01/15/i-sat-where-they-sat/comment-page-2/#comment-1374 xchampion91 Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:03:10 +0000 http://www.cseblogs.com/?p=61#comment-1374 “14 ¶ And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; 15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. 17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: 18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and [that] the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. 20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. 21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. 22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.” I suggest that all of the Laodiceans here in America WAKE UP! Choose your side. Is it going to be God or Satan. You have the free will to choose your Lord and Kent has made his choice. If your are a Christian, it is time to put off being on the fence. That is what the above verses are about. This is one of my favorite passages from the entire Bible. It has the power to make me weep just about every time that I read it (Rev. 3-20). That verse shows just how much the Lord wants to be in your life, he is always right there at the door to your heart, always there for you. Christian, again choose your side. I've chosen to stand with Kent and the Lord. He that hath an ear, let him here what the Spirit saith unto the churches. Let us overcome and sit with the father. “14 ¶ And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; 15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. 17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: 18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and [that] the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. 20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. 21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. 22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.”

I suggest that all of the Laodiceans here in America WAKE UP! Choose your side. Is it going to be God or Satan. You have the free will to choose your Lord and Kent has made his choice. If your are a Christian, it is time to put off being on the fence. That is what the above verses are about. This is one of my favorite passages from the entire Bible. It has the power to make me weep just about every time that I read it (Rev. 3-20). That verse shows just how much the Lord wants to be in your life, he is always right there at the door to your heart, always there for you.

Christian, again choose your side. I’ve chosen to stand with Kent and the Lord.
He that hath an ear, let him here what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Let us overcome and sit with the father.

]]> By: jamesandveybe http://www.cseblogs.com/2007/01/15/i-sat-where-they-sat/comment-page-2/#comment-1373 jamesandveybe Sun, 21 Jan 2007 23:29:12 +0000 http://www.cseblogs.com/?p=61#comment-1373 Mrs. Hovind, My wife wants to know what she can do for you. Please have CSE call me or her for a list of needs. Please stay close to the Lord, so the influence of those around you do not turn your heart from what is true. She wants to write to you. I hope that is OK with you. In Him, James and Veybe Davis Camano Island, WA [EDITED] ... Mrs. Hovind,

My wife wants to know what she can do for you. Please have CSE call me or her for a list of needs. Please stay close to the Lord, so the influence of those around you do not turn your heart from what is true. She wants to write to you. I hope that is OK with you.

In Him,

James and Veybe Davis
Camano Island, WA
[EDITED] …

]]> By: Bert http://www.cseblogs.com/2007/01/15/i-sat-where-they-sat/comment-page-2/#comment-1332 Bert Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:45:56 +0000 http://www.cseblogs.com/?p=61#comment-1332 Hello, Would say you may have missed one of Jeremiah's main messages. When Jeremiah was not listened to, and the people threw him into prison, or jail - - (for one reason or another) - - yes, Jeremiah had troubles - - BUT, remember - - the country that tossed him into jail ended up with far WORSE troubles. All joking aside - - in my opinion, you are in a somewhat safe place, somewhat protected from the coming troubles.... Bert Hello,

Would say you may have missed one of Jeremiah’s main messages.

When Jeremiah was not listened to, and the people threw him into prison, or jail – - (for one reason or another) – - yes, Jeremiah had troubles – - BUT, remember – - the country that tossed him into jail ended up with far WORSE troubles.
All joking aside – - in my opinion, you are in a somewhat safe place, somewhat protected from the coming troubles….

Bert

]]> By: Gordon_Comstock http://www.cseblogs.com/2007/01/15/i-sat-where-they-sat/comment-page-2/#comment-1336 Gordon_Comstock Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:23:24 +0000 http://www.cseblogs.com/?p=61#comment-1336 Baliset, You speak like a pharisee, gloating over the trial of Jesus Christ. Or a Victorian state-church Anglican, gloating over the trial of John Bunyan. Or a BATF jackboot, [EDITED] ... Baliset, you shame Christianity with your lack of discernment, your failure to serve God instead of Caesar. baliset  -  Said this at 12:39am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For those who have not heard yet, Kent Hovind has been sentenced to 10 years, plus ordered to make restitution for the court costs and the money he stole. http://www.pensacolanewsjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070119/NEWS01/701190332/1006 For those who *still*, despite all the evidence and testimony, support this disgrace to the Christian faith, you just don’t get it, do you? Kent Hovind has given Christianity a bad name, and now he is paying the price. It’s not a secular conspiracy. It’s the law of the United States in action. Deal with it. Baliset,
You speak like a pharisee, gloating over the trial of Jesus Christ.
Or a Victorian state-church Anglican, gloating over the trial of John Bunyan.
Or a BATF jackboot, [EDITED] … Baliset, you shame Christianity with your lack of discernment, your failure to serve God instead of Caesar.

baliset  -  Said this at 12:39am:
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For those who have not heard yet, Kent Hovind has been sentenced to 10 years, plus ordered to make restitution for the court costs and the money he stole.

http://www.pensacolanewsjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070119/NEWS01/701190332/1006

For those who *still*, despite all the evidence and testimony, support this disgrace to the Christian faith, you just don’t get it, do you? Kent Hovind has given Christianity a bad name, and now he is paying the price. It’s not a secular conspiracy. It’s the law of the United States in action. Deal with it.

]]> By: Gordon_Comstock http://www.cseblogs.com/2007/01/15/i-sat-where-they-sat/comment-page-2/#comment-1340 Gordon_Comstock Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:16:32 +0000 http://www.cseblogs.com/?p=61#comment-1340 jrob323, you offered to pay Kent Hovind's unConstitutional income tax. Were you serious? Would you pay mine too? jrob323, you offered to pay Kent Hovind’s unConstitutional income tax.
Were you serious? Would you pay mine too?

]]> By: ma2brazil http://www.cseblogs.com/2007/01/15/i-sat-where-they-sat/comment-page-2/#comment-1339 ma2brazil Sat, 20 Jan 2007 17:55:00 +0000 http://www.cseblogs.com/?p=61#comment-1339 Dear Mrs. Hovind, I can not imagine how heavy your heart is at this moment. But I want you to know that we love you, and your family. We will pray earnestly for the situation at hand, for health, for strength and for God's guidance. Please don't feel alone at this time. You have an army of Christians standing behind you and your family and even though hundreds of miles separate us our love and prayers are right there by your side. May the love of God abound with you and your family. Dear Mrs. Hovind,

I can not imagine how heavy your heart is at this moment. But I want you to know that we love you, and your family. We will pray earnestly for the situation at hand, for health, for strength and for God’s guidance. Please don’t feel alone at this time. You have an army of Christians standing behind you and your family and even though hundreds of miles separate us our love and prayers are right there by your side. May the love of God abound with you and your family.

]]> By: 1cor2:14 http://www.cseblogs.com/2007/01/15/i-sat-where-they-sat/comment-page-2/#comment-1371 1cor2:14 Sat, 20 Jan 2007 17:28:07 +0000 http://www.cseblogs.com/?p=61#comment-1371 Hello Kent and all the bloggers, I am sick in my heart to see in the PNJ of your sentence. This definately seems very wrong to me. It's a defeat to all who strive for freedom. I can hear our founding fathers rolling over in their graves. Those who wrote our constitution are greiving. There have been many like yourself who have been persecuted in much worse ways, but I have never known any of them personally. I have met you on a number of occasions, and have watched your videos a number of times. Of couse I don't agree with everything you say, but most of what you teach is absolutley true, and your heart for the lost is sincere. You are good for mankind. I would put you on a short list of people who currently live who have positively effected contemporary society the greatest for the good. It can't be much of a surprise that you find yourself in the situation you are in. You have rattled more cages than this corrupt world can allow one guy to rattle. [EDITED] ... Kent, you changed my focus in video number five. You were expanding on the corruption as I had seen bits and pieces before my salvation. I thought you were taking me back into that mind set, when you said, "now what should we do?" You encouraged me to get out there and save souls. That was very inspiring. That is what God used you to tell me. God may be using you for a different mission. Keep hearing God is the only advice that I can give you. Lay out the fleeces get His direction, and keep your stubborness for God. I must say before I close, that some of your opposition on the Blog inspired my username. I chose 1 cor 2:14, b/c these people remind me of that verse. These people need the Holy Spirit really bad. You see, when you are in a foreign country trying to understand what is going on around you, it is very difficult. The jibber jabber of language is meaningless or foolishness. In order for a foreigner to function efficiently in a foreign country he needs to have an interpretor. People who do not have their sins forgiven via the blood sacrifice of Jesus Christ and the gift of the Holy Spirit as guide, interpretor, councilor, convictor etc see Christianity as foolishness. I challenge you "opposers". Take a look at yourself. Do you sin? Have you sinned? Have you accepted the only available offer of forgiveness offered by God via His Son? Do you understand the "gospel message" of the Bible? Is the Bible a sleeping pill, or an inspiration. Maybe you should look at your death and what the future holds for you. Depending on what you do with this challenge will allow you to understand the Bible, Christians and Christianity or not. It will also allow you to see the truth of whats going on in the World. Whats with the Israeli's and Moslems? Whats the Iraqi thing about anyhow. Why is this war so important that we will sacrifice thousands for the cause. Is that part of the world the only place where innocents are oppressed by mean dictators. Why do we focus on the middle east. Why are we not focussed on Darfur or other oppressed societies? Bow the knee to the creator, and allow Him to open the eyes of your understanding. God might even reveal to you what really happended on Christmas eve when Woodrow Wilson was president of the USA. Is the Federal Reserve Bank really federal, or is it a private institution? Are there tax laws requiring taxes on income? Once you understand what is happening and why, then maybe God will give you an assignment to do. God may have my bro Kent rock the Monetary boat. Some may be in the state legislature rocking the education (evolution vs creation )boat. Some maybe teaching kids Sunday school class giving them the true choices between fantasty and fiction. Are you animals are God's children. God has a reason and a plan for all of us. We were not all created to do the same thing, However all of us were created to do something for God to bless Him and us both. Hello Kent and all the bloggers,

I am sick in my heart to see in the PNJ of your sentence. This definately seems very wrong to me. It’s a defeat to all who strive for freedom. I can hear our founding fathers rolling over in their graves. Those who wrote our constitution are greiving. There have been many like yourself who have been persecuted in much worse ways, but I have never known any of them personally. I have met you on a number of occasions, and have watched your videos a number of times. Of couse I don’t agree with everything you say, but most of what you teach is absolutley true, and your heart for the lost is sincere. You are good for mankind. I would put you on a short list of people who currently live who have positively effected contemporary society the greatest for the good.
It can’t be much of a surprise that you find yourself in the situation you are in. You have rattled more cages than this corrupt world can allow one guy to rattle. [EDITED] …

Kent, you changed my focus in video number five. You were expanding on the corruption as I had seen bits and pieces before my salvation. I thought you were taking me back into that mind set, when you said, “now what should we do?” You encouraged me to get out there and save souls. That was very inspiring. That is what God used you to tell me. God may be using you for a different mission. Keep hearing God is the only advice that I can give you. Lay out the fleeces get His direction, and keep your stubborness for God.
I must say before I close, that some of your opposition on the Blog inspired my username. I chose 1 cor 2:14, b/c these people remind me of that verse. These people need the Holy Spirit really bad. You see, when you are in a foreign country trying to understand what is going on around you, it is very difficult. The jibber jabber of language is meaningless or foolishness. In order for a foreigner to function efficiently in a foreign country he needs to have an interpretor. People who do not have their sins forgiven via the blood sacrifice of Jesus Christ and the gift of the Holy Spirit as guide, interpretor, councilor, convictor etc see Christianity as foolishness. I challenge you “opposers”. Take a look at yourself. Do you sin? Have you sinned? Have you accepted the only available offer of forgiveness offered by God via His Son? Do you understand the “gospel message” of the Bible? Is the Bible a sleeping pill, or an inspiration. Maybe you should look at your death and what the future holds for you. Depending on what you do with this challenge will allow you to understand the Bible, Christians and Christianity or not. It will also allow you to see the truth of whats going on in the World. Whats with the Israeli’s and Moslems? Whats the Iraqi thing about anyhow. Why is this war so important that we will sacrifice thousands for the cause. Is that part of the world the only place where innocents are oppressed by mean dictators. Why do we focus on the middle east. Why are we not focussed on Darfur or other oppressed societies? Bow the knee to the creator, and allow Him to open the eyes of your understanding. God might even reveal to you what really happended on Christmas eve when Woodrow Wilson was president of the USA. Is the Federal Reserve Bank really federal, or is it a private institution? Are there tax laws requiring taxes on income? Once you understand what is happening and why, then maybe God will give you an assignment to do. God may have my bro Kent rock the Monetary boat. Some may be in the state legislature rocking the education (evolution vs creation )boat. Some maybe teaching kids Sunday school class giving them the true choices between fantasty and fiction. Are you animals are God’s children.
God has a reason and a plan for all of us. We were not all created to do the same thing, However all of us were created to do something for God to bless Him and us both.

]]> By: Paul_K_99_Design http://www.cseblogs.com/2007/01/15/i-sat-where-they-sat/comment-page-2/#comment-1370 Paul_K_99_Design Sat, 20 Jan 2007 17:18:19 +0000 http://www.cseblogs.com/?p=61#comment-1370 Dr. Hovind, I am truly saddened by this new. I'm really at a loss for words and don't know what to say. I can only hope and pray that God will use this outcome to help you further bring people to Christ in prison. Perhaps that is His reasoning behind this? "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose". - Romans 8:28 I will continue to pray for you and your family always brother. You (and the messages your preached in your seminars) really helped me tremendously as I began my walk with the Lord, and truly helped me become born again. I have no doubt that your message will continue. If you are still in prison when our Lord returns, than don't worry, you will have a front row seat to meet him in the air anyways :) If he returns after you are released, than all the same brother! God bless you, God bless your wife and family, God bless your ministry, and God bless those prisoners that you will be preaching to. Amen. Dr. Hovind, I am truly saddened by this new. I’m really at a loss for words and don’t know what to say. I can only hope and pray that God will use this outcome to help you further bring people to Christ in prison. Perhaps that is His reasoning behind this?

“And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose”. – Romans 8:28

I will continue to pray for you and your family always brother. You (and the messages your preached in your seminars) really helped me tremendously as I began my walk with the Lord, and truly helped me become born again. I have no doubt that your message will continue.

If you are still in prison when our Lord returns, than don’t worry, you will have a front row seat to meet him in the air anyways :)
If he returns after you are released, than all the same brother!

God bless you, God bless your wife and family, God bless your ministry, and God bless those prisoners that you will be preaching to. Amen.

]]> By: joshua joscelyn http://www.cseblogs.com/2007/01/15/i-sat-where-they-sat/comment-page-2/#comment-1369 joshua joscelyn Sat, 20 Jan 2007 16:29:12 +0000 http://www.cseblogs.com/?p=61#comment-1369 Dear precious brother, I sit here in tears upon hearing of your sentencing. Never before, have I known someone so zealous for truth and mercy. I count it an honor to have been blessed by your spirit. I don't understand the hatred being spewed out by the bretheren. "For it was not an enemy that reproached me...neither was it he that hated me that did magnify himself against me." Ps 55:12-14. We've always known the world would despise your light. (Jn.1:5) But in reponse to some of your critics, and speaking to your character, I've never known anyone with such a zeal for souls, for helping, for serving, and for loving your Lord above all. Your HUMILTY shines forth with a BOLDNESS that comes only from RIGHTEOUSNESS (Job 36:3-4; Ps 119:100). You stand as an example of what God is truly speaking of when He commands us to contend for the faith (Jude 3). God has always sought after a man to sanctify himself to defy the world and all that embodies evil with sincerity and boldness(Ez 22:30). In your tirades and frustration with the lies being propogated among our youth, I see no hatred or pride, but a man fully surrendered unto God with a deep love for the lost. God bless you, sir. You have inspired me like no other man living. You will always be in my prayers. Dear precious brother,
I sit here in tears upon hearing of your sentencing. Never before, have I known someone so zealous for truth and mercy. I count it an honor to have been blessed by your spirit. I don’t understand the hatred being spewed out by the bretheren. “For it was not an enemy that reproached me…neither was it he that hated me that did magnify himself against me.” Ps 55:12-14. We’ve always known the world would despise your light. (Jn.1:5) But in reponse to some of your critics, and speaking to your character, I’ve never known anyone with such a zeal for souls, for helping, for serving, and for loving your Lord above all. Your HUMILTY shines forth with a BOLDNESS that comes only from RIGHTEOUSNESS (Job 36:3-4; Ps 119:100). You stand as an example of what God is truly speaking of when He commands us to contend for the faith (Jude 3). God has always sought after a man to sanctify himself to defy the world and all that embodies evil with sincerity and boldness(Ez 22:30). In your tirades and frustration with the lies being propogated among our youth, I see no hatred or pride, but a man fully surrendered unto God with a deep love for the lost. God bless you, sir. You have inspired me like no other man living. You will always be in my prayers.

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