I have been righting and calling Christian radio and tv stations, news stations, etc. If enough people make a voice against this, they will be compelled to do something, eveyone call these stations and politicians, it just takes a little of your time, would you not want someone to stand with you and help you in your time of need? We may be the next one, who is going to take a stand to stop these people?

And for the one who listed the U.S Codes, you do error not knowing the deceptive language of the Government and IRS. It says, it IMPOSES ON THE TAXABLE INCOME OF every individual who is married or single who MAKES A SINGLE RETURN JOINTLY, AND THEN STATES THE SAME FOR HEADOF HOUSEHOLDS, Married filing seperate AND INDIVIDUALS, etc.

The key words here is TAXABLE INCOME, AND WHO MAKES A RETURN. There is no law that that says indviduals who earn income has to pay taxes, ordinary people outside of the Federal governent and employment, does not have a legal taxable income, we are considered non-taxpayers, until we put ourselves into their system by agreeing to become slaves to their system, because of fear of threats. We do not understand our legal rights, and because of this they get away with whatever they want to do, nor do they abide or uphold their own laws. Want more info? Check out the truth about the Federal Reserve.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode26/usc_sec_26_00000001—-000-.html

I want you to know that I will pray for you.
That God may help in this situation.
That you may feel God’s Love.
God Bless You!

Your brother from The Netherlands (Aalten),
Joost Aalbers

Mr Hovind does a fine job educating the evolutionists and has done a fine job researching all the wonderful stuff he teaches in his presentations (and i thank you for it all!), but i dont think it is the only cause of his pursecution. He also teachs the onset of this New World Order and the oppression it will bring and how they can accomplish it – stuff they dont want us to know.

here is a link to a .torrent site that has a library of stuff about a facility that is designed to alter the weather and more (the first video is of a book that was meantioned in hovind’s lecture). you need a torrent program like Azureus (and there are others). you could search for the names of the videos in google video, but i have found that the videos from google are quite large compared to the torrent: (google video: 928Mb, torrent: 247Mb)
These are documentaries and not christian content. Click on the green link (not in english) with the green arrows beside it this will bring up a “save as…” dialog requesting where you want to save the .Torrent file.

http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3492434

If you only want the first file, spefify that you dont want theother stuff as the whole lot is over 4 GIGs.

as Kent said, if it causes you to loose sleep, read the psalms.

Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, [saying,] Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from
us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.

Charlie.

Did the Welde remember your chocolates yesterday?

I have replied to your last post but acidentally put it in the later blog “Update from Bunk Three”. It said:

Hi, Welder’s Wife

I clicked on your hydroplate link and then went straight on to ex-paratrooper Walt Brown’s meteorite theory at http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/Asteroids2.html#wp1020216 .

He says that water fountains during the Flood blasted granite boulders into space where they now circle the sun in the asteroid belt.

When I read that I went and sat in the bath and contemplated what mechanism would be necessary to accomplish this. And I got stuck – not in the bath but with the theory.

The problem is that water is an (almost) incompressible fluid. As I understand it and please correct me if I am wrong one cannot “push” water to “push” water in front of it faster than a shock wave can propagate itself through the body of the water. Now the maximum speed for a shock wave in water is no more than 1600 metres per second. But the velocity an object has to achieve to escape the Earth’s gravity is over 11,000 metres a second – and this does not include for the extra velocity which would be needed to overcome drag caused by the atmosphere.

So how can an incompressible substance which is travelling at only a relatively slow speed impart a much higher speed to an inelastic and brittle body such as a lump of granite?

Far from reaching escape velocity and sailing onto the asteroid belt, using Newton’s equations of motion I calculate that a granite boulder could reach an altitude no higher than 130 kilometres (excluding any consideration for drag) before falling back to Earth – a long way short of the 80,000 kilometres it would have to travel to escape the Earth’s gravitational field and then to meander on slowly a further 200,000,000 kilometres to meet its lonely friends in the asteroid belt.

You say that you have studied both the hydroplate theory as well as plate techtonic theory so you should be able to come up with the answer.

Of course, it is entirely possible that the answer is that good ol’ Walt was in the habit of jumping out of aeroplanes without wearing his helmet

Sorry, that can’t physcially work. Rock is denser than water hence won’t float on a water layer. The only way a layer of rock could be held above water would be if the rock had its own structural integrity. ie a solid bubble. The rock layer must also be globally impermeable, that is, not a single crack anywhere (quite a feat) Because the bubble is solid it therefor can not provide an compression onto the underlying water.

Back to the Hydroplate Theory: The Mid-Ocean Ridge intersects in the Indian Ocean. The research at this point indicates that it continues up the Gulf of Aden & through the Red Sea & up the Boot of Italy. The Continent of Africa went right over the top of it when it was in transit. The same thing happened in the Pacific Ocean. The North American Continent went over the top of the Mid Ocean Ridge. It runs under the West Coast. If you look at a really good world map that shows the details of the ocean floor, its real obvious. You can see how the Hydroplate Theory works.
All your other questions including the Dover Cliffs & the Camels are explained on the website http://www.creationscience.com Walt Brown Ph.D continually updates the website as more research comes in.
I learned the Theory of Continental Drift & Plate Tectonics first, & afterwards learned the Hydroplate Theory. The Hydroplate Theory makes more sense & fits the scientific evidence far better.

Cheers!

The Welder’s Wife

Thanks for reply. I am not sure that I should be writing to you on Valentine’s day – my wife might get jealous.

As for the depth of our gene pool, I live in a medium-sized traditional English village. We have a Turkish Restaurant, a Nepalese restaurant, a Chinese Restaurant, a Sikh optician, a Chinese bone cruncher and a French baker. My newspaper is delivered from a shop owned by an Indian or Pakistani gentleman. Our gardener is Italian, my neighbour is Chinese. Apart from which, unfortunately, there are also the usual suspects, Welsh, Irish and Scottish. So we are not short of genes.

There used to be a Jewish lawyer as well until recently but he had to rush back to Israel to fulfil a prophecy. He was very happy here and didn’t want to move so he is quite upset with you fundamentalists.

I haven’t come across any Mexicans but perhaps they find the pace of life here too slow.

As for animals, next door we have a Belgium dog, across the lane they are Welsh; ours is German but small. He is a daft as rags – point him in one direction and he runs off in the other. I call him Kent. Again, quite a rich gene pool for such a small place. I like your Canardlys, though. It is quite true that the thoroughbreds seem to spend most of their time “under the vet”. I have a theory that the rush hour round here is caused by women in their 4 x 4s taking their labradors to have their nails manicured and their displaced hips re-inserted in the appropriate sockets.

I’m afraid that I don’t agree with you about American Football. Rugby’s gene pool spreads from Scotland in the northern hemisphere to New Zealand in the southern. From the Pacific Islands in the east to South America in the west. So how is it that only American teams ever seem to show up for the Superbowl?

And another thing; American Football is so painfully slow. Every couple of minutes it stops for a referee(?) to pick up his poorly-secured hanky (why are those guys all so petulant?) while both teams form a circle to discuss the finer points of scary make-up, and the supporters buy another hamburger. And what are those silly girls all about?

In rugby, the lads play 40 minutes non-stop (except to have stitches inserted in their eyeballs to stem the blood), pop off to the dressing roomfor 15 minutes at half time for a small cup of China tea and some cucumber sandwiches and to write postcards to their mothers while they have the odd limb encased in plaster and then, those who can still crawl, come out to play another non-stop 40 minutes. After the game they push their noses back in place and go off ballroom dancing.

I’m not smiling I’m serious!

Your genealogy is all very interesting but I don’t buy it, sorry. Just like my village but not so much as mongrel America (no offence) the population of the Middle East was a melting pot of various religious traditions but all built around some variety of the Osiris/Dionysus Mystery religion. Jesus was only one in a long line of saviour mangods and the believers had the same “born again” redemptive religious experience as Christians claim for themselves today. I’m quite happy with that. As Paul makes clear, there were as many different sects of the new religion as there were churches and he had to struggle to bring them all together under a single theology. In that, he ultimately failed.

Thanks for the info on Ohio. We received some photos from our friend over there yesterday. They show a frozen lake. What’s on Earth’s happening? The Polar ice caps are melting but Ohio is still in the ice age.

Yes, I know of the “Hydroplate Theory” – or at least I thought I did until I read on then I realised I didn’t. In fact, it’s an hypothesis as there is no evidence whatsoever to support it just as there was no water to support the plates. I really can recommend the advantages of a good scientific education, especially to the author of the “theory”.

You can try a little experiment for yourself. Take a fresh egg and put a pin hole in the shell very carefully. Then, equally carefully squeeze the egg as firmly but as uniformly as you can. What comes out? My theory is that nothing will come out because the shell is very strong in compression – just like a granite shell would be.

Also, water is virtually incompressible. Drill a small theoretical hole in your theoretical granite shell and very little will come out.

If, as you say, the water expanded under heat then it would expand by some 4.3% between freezing and boiling. Contained within a strongly tensile shell it could reach temperatures above boiling but, unfortunately for your theory, granite is extremely weak under tension and the expanding water would shatter the shell long before it got anywhere near boiling. The water would then just go – pufff – and start to seep out from below the shell. It would not come out at vast rock-eroding speeds. Indeed, by my rough calculations, given an Earth circumference of 40 x 10^9 millimetres it would take an imperceptible rise in water temperature (something of the order of 40 x 10^ -7 degrees centigrade – less than one millionth of a degree) to cause your hairline crack of one millimetre in the granite shell.

Also, remember, in your theory the water would have to exactly fit the available volume below the granite – exact to the drop. Now that would have been a good trick.

Please would you cite your authority relating to camels being found in the frozen north as I have not come across it.

You say “This explains why all the mountain chains around the globe are parallel with the Mid Oceanic Ridge. ” What about the Pyrenees, The Atlas, the Alps and the Himalayas? Don’t they all pretty much run east-west?

No, Welders Wife. I am afraid the Hydroplate “theory” is utter junk from beginning to end for reasons which it would take me a month to cut and paste. But, fear not, all is not lost; we have plate tectonics theory which is actually based upon a vast amount of observational evidence and is predictive. Indeed, the whole idea of plate tectonics came about from a very simple everyday observation – a line of mussels like a tide mark some six feet or so above sea level on the cliff faces of the western Canadian seaboard. How did they get there? Either the sea must have shrunk or the rock must have lifted. The tidemark handn’t been there some years earlier but only appeared after an earthquake. The sea level hadn’t dropped elsewhere so the rock must have been uplifted – but how? From that simple observation by a scientist (possibly a creationist but who knows?) the hypothesis was developed and it has subsequently been backed up by a huge inter-disciplinary wealth of information such that it is now a fully-fledged scientific theory – it completely explains the observations without having to invent a whole new impossible geology. And it doesn’t require the Earth to flip on its axis. We know it didn’t from astronomical and geophysical records. Also, have you ever played with a gyroscope?

I would like to visit Mount St Helens but will not have the time. Just because there was a catastrophe which quickly deposited many layers in a short time doesn’t mean that most sedimentary strata were laid down under such conditions. Indeed, you have given evidence in your post of it; fossilized water ripples can only form when water is rippling backwards and forwards under calm and non-catastrophic conditions as on the beach at the seaside. You shouldn’t believe the creationist idiots without first reading more mainstream authors and learning some good science. Remember, the majority of sedimentary strata was not formed by mountains blowing up. And your teacher was quite right in the main.

You’d be very welcome to come over here to England and I will have great pleasure showing you the White Cliffs of Dover for which Noah’s Flood has no explanation but real science does. Unfortunately, you won’t be allowed to bring your Canardly with you – because of the Germ Theory of Disease the authorities won’t allow him through Customs in case he has rabies.

Bye

Samphire

There are other sources you might explore for understanding the correspondence of science and faith, the existence of God through science. Science is not inherently evil; it can actually be a very good friend to the Christian who is careful to study and learn. I would invite the supporters of Mr. Hovind to study what other brothers and sisters in the Kingdom have presented, people who are well qualified in their fields of science, physics, philosophy; whose degrees are not questionable, and who have also very successfully engaged the world. You might look up the works of Hugh Ross, Michael Behe, William Lane Craig, Norman Geisler, Hank Hanegraaff, J.P. Moreland, Francis Schaeffer. I’d invite you also to explore the thinking presented at Creation Research Institute (equip.org), and Reasons to Believe (reasons.org).

Smile!

Ok, in answer to your questions, we’ll start with Luke. Luke is Mary’s genealogy, & Joseph’s father-in-law is not the only father-in-law mentioned in that passage. Cainan whose son-in-law is Shelah, is also mentioned. Scripture interprets scripture, & it says the ages of these guys when their sons were born in Genesis 11:10-14, so Canaan has to be a father-in-law. Luke is writing to Gentiles & some of them were descendents of the old Hittite Kingdom [They were descendents of Cainan & they wanted to know how they fit in. See Genesis 10:15 & 23:3 & 10. [The Irish did the same thing with their genealogies...when people first wrote down theirs, they wanted to know how they fit in with the Table of Nations, so whoever wrote down the genealogies for the Irish took them right back to where their ancestors were named in the scriptures.] & the thing that is so absolutely profound is that God sends the first missionaries to the descendents of Canaan. God could have sent Paul anywhere, but He chose them. God’s love is just absolutely amazing! Half of the churches mentioned in Rev 2 & 3 were located in old Hittite territory. & if you go back to Genesis 9:25 where it says in reference to Canaan, “A servant of servants he shall be to his brothers”, it’s fulfilled in Revelation 2 & 3, because the brethern mentioned in those two chapters are still serving us through what is said about them.

It sounds like you had an interesting childhood! And yes I do know God personally, & no, I’m not from the loony bin. Jesus says in John 14:21 “He who has My commandments & keeps them, he it is who loves Me; & he who loves Me shall be loved by My Father, & I will love him, & will disclose Myself to him.” In verse 23 Jesus says, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; & My Father will love him, & We will come to him, & make Our abode with him.” Samphire, yes indeed the Highest Heavens cannot contain God, but because of that very fact, He also has the ability to become a Man & die for our sins..which he did. He did it because of His love & mercy. He created mankind with the ability to interact with Him. It’s His desire to interact with people. You have to take God at His word & put your trust in what He says.

I’ve never been to Ohio, but I don’t think it’s a God-forsaken place as they have a great Creation Science Ministry in Ohio! I don’t know about the tea thing. Maybe there’s a ‘Star Bucks’ or a ‘City Brew’ or something similar. That time of year you’ll probably have an easier time finding ‘Iced Tea’. It can be pretty potent, so you might want to ask for a glass of ice water to go with it. I live where the mountains were formed at the end of Noah’s Flood. All around the town where I live are rocks that contain fossilized water ripple marks. There’s even huge upright slabs of them exposed along the road as one enters town from the NW entrance. Have you ever heard of the Hydroplate Theory? [www.creationscience.com] Roughly, about four to six thousand years ago the North Pole was located about where the Gobi Desert is now in Western China, & the South Pole was located about where the Chilean Rise is now in the Pacific Ocean off the coast of Chile. The Equator was in a different location. Part of the old Equator would have run along where the boarder is now between Canada & the USA, favoring more the Canadian side. All across the globe the amount of land above sea level was far greater & it all connected along the seam known as the Mid Oceanic Ridge that encircles the globe. Underneath the global land mass there was a half mile deep ocean of water that encircled the globe. The land mass itself consisted of granite roughly ten miles deep. The water below the land mass was sealed off from the surface water. The surface water was contained in shallow seas & lakes. The two different areas of water didn’t intermingle. The water below the land mass was under intense pressure because of the weight of the ten miles of granite above it. The water under the land mass gradually heated up, & as it did so it expanded. It eventually got to the point where the pressure was so great that a hair line crack suddenly formed in the granite above & it encircled the globe in about 2 hours, all along where the Mid Oceanic Ridge is now. Then, because of the weight of the ten mile thick granite land mass resting above the under-continent ocean, the water went shooting up out of this crack with intense pressure. As it shot out of the crack, it continually eroded the sides of the crack. The crack continued to widen. It is estimated that the muddy water eventually shot up into the air to a height of 20 miles. In some places it came back down as frozen muddy ice hail, in mega amounts!! As it came back down, it pulled the extremely cold temperatures of outer space with it. [That's why we find frozen critters in the far North, like Camels & Mammoths who sometimes still have unchewed food in their mouths & undigested food in their stomachs. They were frozen almost instantly!]. In other places it came back down as muddy rain. It also overflowed the crack, completely flooding the entire global slab of granite, because there were no high mountains until later. In the mean time, the crack continued to widen… When it got to a certain width, the floor of the underground lake, because of no longer having the weight of ten miles of granite above it, began to buckle upwards forming the Mid Oceanic Ridge. In turn, the part of the granite slab that was still above it, when it got to a certain point, slid down from it [like somebody on a water slide]. Because of the water that was still underneath the granite slab, the whole slab[continent] continued to travel at about 45 miles per hour until it met resistance, & then it buckled up into mountains. This explains why all the mountain chains around the globe are parallel with the Mid Oceanic Ridge. The floor of the under-continent ocean began to buckle up first in the Atlantic Ocean. This in turn caused the floor of the under-continent ocean on the opposite side of the globe to suck inwards in order to compensate for the floor on the Atlantic side pushing outward. [The opposite side
of the globe is the area of the Western Pacific Ocean.] In turn, the granite slab[continent] above it also sank downwards.[If you view a world map that includes the satellite images of the ocean floors, you should take note that the trenches in the Western Pacific follow the out line of the Mid Oceanic Ridge in the Atlantic Ocean.] All the volcanic activity in the Western Pacific Ocean is a result of the intense friction of the shifting of the basalt floor of the under-continent ocean & the heat generated when the granite slab sunk. It’s still cooling down!

As I said before, the North Pole was located about where the Gobi Desert is in Western China. When the Himalayan Mountains were formed, that area became the heaviest part of the earth. As a result, the earth began to roll straight towards the equator until it met its equilibrium. As it rolled, the earth ripped in a straight line, & that crack filled up with molten basalt forming the Ninety East Ridge in the Indian Ocean. [This is why tropical fossils of both plants & animals are found in both the North & South Polar Regions of the earth.]

Because the Mid Oceanic Ridge became molten as the basalt floor rose upwards, it heated up the ocean water all over the globe. In turn the water evaporated, & came back down as mega snow fall forming massive ice sheets across the Northern Hemisphere. The snow didn’t melt in the summer time because of the cloud cover caused by the steam. Instead, the snow continued to accumulate year after year until the Mid Oceanic Ridge cooled down. Then the ice gradually melted. Another thing that happened, was that when the traveling granite slabs met resistance & buckled into mountains, all the valleys were filled to the brim with water. This occurred on a global scale, & in turn was one of the reasons why the ocean levels were 300 feet [or more] lower. [The other reasons were that the water was tied up in massive ice sheets in the North; & the mountains hadn't reached isostatic equilibrium yet, so the ocean floors were lower.] Because the ocean water levels were lower, animals & people were then able to migrate all over the globe. this occurred after the global flood, after the animals & people left the ark & began to multiply. [And another thing: Before the Flood there were no randomly scattered rocks all over the globe. If you dug into the top soil at that time, you wouldn't have come across rocks. It would have been pure soil.] You shouldn’t have any problems comphrehending this since you claim to be a left brained soul, but it is better if you go to Dr Walt Brown’s web site & read the online information. There’s all kinds of wonderful pictures & illustrations that explain it in great detail. If you are going to come over to the USA you ought to study up on this stuff before you get here. It would make your trip a lot more interesting! You should also check into Steve Austin’s research into Mount Saint Helens [The volcano in Washington that blew up in the early 1980's. It left over 600 layers of asorted layers in nine & a half hours. When I was in school my teachers told me that each layer took millions of years to form, but God used Mount Saint Helens to blow that theory clean away!!]

Cheers again!

The Welder’s Wife

And God bless you too,

Samphire